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What Is Line-X Coating? Share this: Facebook Twitter Pinterest Email. Comments Hello very nice blog!! Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Address Bainbridge Dothan Road. Line X. Click Here For Recommended Bedliners. Pros of Line X. It has higher tensile strength and is even more resistant to wear and tear due to the harder surface. Despite being thin, it still is capable of absorbing sound when in use.
It fits very closely to your truck bed and the installation is relatively easy. After it is applied, it dries within minutes. When you use spray-on bed liners, they form a permanent bond with your truck bed. Spray in truck bed liners are also resistant to chemicals such as gasoline, diesel, etc.
Rhino Liner. Pros of Rhino Liner. Compared to the Line-X, the soft texture of the Rhino liner compared is a good feeling on your hands and knees. The thicker material used in this liner also works to dampen sound and lessen impact.
The soft surface of the Rhino lining is also more friendly to your cargo, unlike other bed liners with a rough surface.
The anti-slip function of the Rhino liner is superior. It is UV resistant, waterproof, and non-flammable. Rhino Linings offers a lifetime warranty for this bedliner. What are the Similarities Between the Two? It is so soft that the material used in Rhino Lining gives the rubbery feel. The surface of Rhino Liner is not rough at all. So, even if one wants to sit on the truck bed, there are no chances of hurting the knees as the bed liner is gentle.
As it is thick by nature, it looks dull by default. Because of its softness, sometimes it is not a good tear resistant as compared to the harder materials. People who have used Rhino liner believe that it does not hold up sharp things like axes and chainsaws. Because of its smoothness and rubbery surface, such risky things move quickly, and so it is quite dangerous.
There are also some reviews about Rhino bed liner that it does not stick in places and not at all tear resistant. Anyhow, where some of the holes had been moisture got trapped and rusted out my bed.
I have been considering doing my new truck with Line-x. I called the Line-x dealer, he stated one big difference is that Line-x has Kevlar in it, making it much tougher than Rhino. Another concern I have is skid resistance with Line-x. How does it compare to Rhino? I know I have a lot of concerns here and I appreciate your comments! About the warranty issue. The only thing actually covered is peeling, cracking, or warping due to normal heat and cold. Hope I was able to help.
Thanks Michael, Rhino used to show up at our trade shows and say they had lifetime waranties-no matter what. What are your thoughts on helping to protect it? Perhaps Herculiner and a bed mat?
I would suggest doing a spray in and then a bed mat on top of that. Remember though small spots can be repaired easily to protect the metal that may be showing.
I have a Dodge 6. That way I could protect the bare steel made during the hitch install. Scott, I do this everyday and would recommend you installing the hide away ball before the liner. Have the installer drill the holes for the chains but not actually install them. That will save a little time for the liner guys and maybe you a little money depending if they charge for that.
Spraying the liner after will protect the metal where all the holes have been cut and prevent rust. As far as the gooseneck, either way you want would be okay. Just my opinions on all of it…. Thanx much; you guys rock. Scott — I think the solution that works for everyone is to have the holes for the hitch install cut, then get the bedliner, then get the hitch finalized.
That solves all the issues as well as making life easier for both installers. Hopefully, the hitch installers are open to that.
I have a couple questions. Plus this truck is my Hunting rig. My questions are, 1 Can the spray on bedliners be applied on the whole truck not just the inside of the bed? Fading is not an issue as it is a work and hunting rig. Doors still open fine and it will add about pounds. Michael — I meant to say thanks for the quick responses to these questions.
Anyone got any experience with having this done and what to look out for? Is odor a big problem when doing the interior? I think the biggest problem is cost…pulling carpet and spraying might involve pulling out seats, interior panels, etc.
Could be expensive. The issue there — as I understand it — is that the material might not bond perfectly to the factory clear coat. Things to ask about for sure. Another good question for the dealer. Thanks Jason! Preston — You bet. There are a couple of spray-in liner installers that check up on the comments here — hopefully one of them will chime in. Keep in mind that every truck bed that comes off the assembly line has been clearcoated as well and we all know how well this stuff bonds to that!!
Michael — Just what I needed to know. Thanks again guys! Do you scuff right up to the edge of the painted area? I guess this is a risk on any liner, so maybe the installer I talked to was just trying to talk me out of it…. Jason — I would be trying to talk you out of it too! If you have intentions of pulling it off then yes you will be able to work it off.
I own a Silverado, had it Rhino Lined about 3 years ago. I had the bed rails covered so they would be protected in the event I choose to haul cargo that way. I have a Jason bed cap on my truck. I also covered the bed with a removable rubber bed mat. It makes keeping the truck bed clean a hole lot easier, prtects the Rhino a littel, and provides friction so nothing slides.
The cap has prevented any sun fading. I did have a little drippin left on the bed rails in a few spots. The dealer I had my bed sprayed at had been in business about 5 years 7 or 8 now. Overall, I am very pleased with my Rhino Liner but I am not opposed to exploring other options.
Hope this helps someone, DC. Thanks for the read, great info that seems unbiased. As I read over and over again, the installer is the key no matter what the product. I saw a few folks from Denver commenting. TCA — Thank you.
I am getting a truck in the next couple of days and a spray-in bedliner was something I knew I wanted right from the beginning. Please do us a favor and share a link to this post on your favorite forum, your Facebook page, etc.
Gents, I had a 98 red Ram Had a color matched Scorpion spray-in liner installed in The liner outlasted the truck. Was rusting from the wheelwell undersides when I finally had to trade it in for a new truck.
Took 3 inch stone gravel and never got a scratch. Regrettably, the place that did my liner last time is not found on internet. Now that it has been nearly four years since you have been tracking, I am wondering if a bedliner now stands out over the others? I have a dodge I am going to get a liner in and I am doing my homework. I have an over the rail drop in liner in it now and it has rubbed the rails down to primer in a few spots, so I am going to take it out and spray liner over to the point where it rubbed.
I have a quote from linex for for black and for color? I would definately go with the Rhino liner. If i park on any type of slope and put my chainsaws on the tailgate they slide right off.
I hope that I can find a shop that can spray a rhino over my horrible line-x liner. Bill — We updated this post a few months ago, and the post has been re-worded to reflect our late notes. The bottom line is that the Rhino and Line-X are neck and neck in terms of features and quality.
The key differentiator is the installer. It should be covered. I just had Line-X installed in the 8 foot bed of Chevy Silverado. It looks nice but the application seems thin. How thick does Line-X recommend the installer apply the liner?
I plan to have a Rhino liner sprayed in it. I am wondering about prep work on the plywood. There are areas where maybe it should be filled in prior to the spraying of the liner.
Will Rhino do this or do I need to take care of this myself. What is the recommended filler for these lower depressed areas. I have a Tacoma I would like to spray have the linex product sprayed onto the composite bed.
Has anyone had this product done and what where the results. Doug — In my shop it would save you a little money to fill those spots in yourself. Ron — I would not recommend doing this. Line-X or any other liner will not bond well to the plastic type bedliner on the Tacoma. Michael — Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. It was perfect…no runs, clean lines. Two years later I had a 5th wheel hitch installed…no problems with chipping or flaking.
It faded a bid after a few years but so did the rail caps so everything matched! Who knows…but when I called to get an estimate for my new truck, they said the application will take 6 hours! Either their slow or they do it right. My bad…I looked over my notes from the other day…the 6 hour estimate was for Rhino Liner…Line-X estimated 3 hours. Great article and a veritable boatload of good comments and dialog from all over. Thanks everyone. Just getting my new F delivered tomorrow and will be getting a liner sprayed in.
They have a lot of info on their website www. It all comes down to the installer. Nice attempt, but your really way off on most of your points. High pressure is about 2, psi, not psi. Aliphatic bedliners do NOT fade. Texture does not affect the gloss. I can go on and on and on….. Are you an installer? Always happy to learn — feel free to email me directly: admin tundraheadquarters. Hey Anonymous, Who are you saying is way off on most of their points? High pressure vs low pressure as a general rule of thumb for most installers do have something to do with each other in that high pressure liners are usually sprayed somewhat thinner than low pressure liners.
It depends on the type of machine. And, believe it or not there are polyurea products out there you can spray with a low pressure machine as well. Spray a liner with no texture whatsoever and it will look like a shiny piece of tinted glass…. Okay, I went back through this blog and see where Anonymous found all his info and disagreed with a lot of it.
The problem is this article was written 4 years ago and a lot has changed in the business since then. Obviously this article is a little out of date but instead of attacking on the blog how about explaining why it is wrong so we can all learn something?
Just my opinion…. Oh and one more thing, the average person and MOST installers had never even heard of aliphatic bedliners when this article was written…. Michael — Thanks for commenting. I did go back and update the article last November, but the installers I spoke with never mentioned aliphatic liner materials.
I did, however, review the details of the article and my conclusions and was not challenged. I had an aluminum gas tank sprayed by Linex dealer in Pittsburg California, within two days the liner pealed off. The cause was a bad prep job by Linex Pittsburg Cali. The owner offered to give me back my I would never use Linex for anything ever again horrible customer service.
Maybe if a different installer had taken the time on the Rhino application it would have looked ok but it was ALOT thicker and took away from the contour of the factory bed. They even sprayed over the tie downs! The application was clean, the lines were straight and they removed every bed bolt and tailgate screw prior to application. The results were impeccable.. Over a half a dozen strangers have commented on how nice the liner looked. LineX wins in my book hands down. No other company including Rhino has products like them.
Perhaps he will post the information. OK, since some time has expired, I thought I would post a link to a copy of the article with my comments in red. As of this date, I have almost nine years of experiece in the industry. David likes to bash the competition no matter what. Depends on what you need and what you want to spend. Thanks for the offer! There are some very bad products in the marketplace. Jason, I wish you had not deleted my link.
That was some very good information! I agree that the installer makes a big difference in the process.
Finding a good installer is probably the best advice no matter the brand. In what area of the U. I apologize for taking so long…the eliminator project has sucked the life out of this site lately. I sought advice from this site back in January as I needed a bed liner and had no experience. The Rhino seemed to rubbery to me. I am completely happy with the liner and would recommend it to anyone. The site was real useful, thanks for the info. Most of the professional bedliners have base components that are made of either polyurethane, polyurea, or a hybrid of both.
All of these types have pretty good elasticity and are not really brittle at all. So, which type is best for a spray-on bedliner? A hybrid in most cases. Is a hybrid always a better choice for any application? Many things must be considered when choosing a protective coating such as substrate and service environment. David is exactly right on his last points.
Now is where it starts coming down to prices. Are you needing a really hard bedliner? Weigh your options and base your decisions on the things talked about in this forum PLUS pricing and the most bang for your buck!
Yes, generally speaking, polyurea is more expensive than polyurethane. Another thing that affects price is chemical quality. There are high quality chemicals and…not so high quality chemicals.
Not all companies use high quality chemicals. Low quality chemicals can render an inferior final product due to weak crosslinking, fillers, and impurities.
All of these can also contribute to poor adhesion to the substrate. I spent over 6 years installing urethane deck coatings. At one point, we bought a franchise to use a similar product to the the Line-X and Rhino to spray water proof decks. The product was called Bullhide, and it was really one of those cases of 6 of one, half dozen of another.
The technology in spraying the two part system was so touchy that we gave up and went back to a hydophelic system that was a trowel on for the decks. It is a 3 part system that you mix and pour into a drywall hopper and spray. It had a pot life of about 20 minutes, and it had been a little while since I last messed with that stuff, but I spent quite a while in prep. I washed, then wiped with Alcohol, sanded everything with 80 grit and a nylon cup brush, vaccumed, wiped again, masked, wiped again with denatured alcohol and sprayed.
After demasking, It was still a bit tacky, and the next morning, I stand one it, but it still had a little bit of grab. I saw one reference to Scorpion on here. It has so much to do with your needs and the quality of installation.
I am not an installer, nor do I work for the company. I have just been researching the stuff to shoot on decks again. I like this stuff, although there are some products with better elongation and tear strength numbers.
This stuff worked great for my needs. Also, to follow up with a couple of other questions I saw, and that I may be able to add to… 1.
You can shoot any of these products directly on to plywood with little or no prep. Note however that it will telegraph any lumps or bumps or divots. Bondo is actually a little better than wood putty because it stops outgassing faster for filling things. Someone mentioned they were looking to install it in a food truck of sorts… I would suggest one better, You can spray these products over foam mats and encapsulate them.
You can build a nice soft surface to stand on. Installing over new paint… Wait at least 30 days for the paint to fully cure or wait till after you have the liner in to paint. It takes longer than you think for auto paint to fully cure.
Aromatic open chained hydrocarbons and aliphatic closed hydrocarbons have to do with UV stability, not strength. So, while aliphatic is good, it has nothing to do with the context of their statement. Polyurethanes are also either acrylic or polyester. Polyester is the best but acrylic is less expensive.
It is not cheap epoxy or polyurethane with filler and solvents added to reduce cost. Pentagon, U. I think you see my point. Below is a link to a picture of them. Note that Scorpian requires a primer for truck beds because the bedliner product does not obtain good adhesion.
It can be rolled on instead of sprayed on. Thanks for the feedback. It is obvious that you have a great deal of experience with Line-X and other truck bed coating systems. While getting a Line-X or Rhino product sprayed is a great option, I know from experience, that there is a demographic of vehicle owners out there that bacause of budget or otherwise, choose to do it themselves.
I would tell them that there are some quality products out there that will fit the bill. Certainly if you are in need of something that will give you more strength than Hurculiner, no doubt the solution for a DIY guy is there.
When I looked at it, the economics of the project dictated the solution. That is also what drives me toward it as a deck coating solution.
Thanks for the input on the acrylics v. It does help when you are looking at solutions for what you needs are. I wish I had a fleet of trucks to do a side by side comparison on. The ealier comment about the Scorpion stated that the bedliner outlasted his truck. That comment however does not prove that Line-X or Rhino is crap, just that there are other systems out there that folks are happy with and have had good results from.
I am merely adding my experience to that list. It must work for what he needs it for. Speedliner swears that it beats Rhino and Line-X too. If I had a larger pocketbook, I would have done the in-depth look at it v. If you buy one that does fade like Herculiner , you might want to paint it also. Following the directions includes proper surface preparation. Consider thickness.
Your thickness requirement will vary depending on your application. For reference, a piece of paper is usually about 10 to 15 mils and a dime is about 40 mils. OK, knowing that, if you buy one can of Herculiner for a short bed truck, how thick will the coating be?
A short bed truck has roughly 85 square feet. Answer: About 8 mils. I have been a coatings applicator for 20 yrs and have decided to purchase plural component spray equipment. LineX and Rhino liners are not the only bedliner franchises these days. It all comes down to the applicators integrity. Their preparation process, cleaning process, and thickness determine the quality of product. I would definatly research applicators In my area instead of specific brand name.
I would recommend aliphatic polyurea liners for their colorfastness for the basic bedliner. Just a slight correction: Rhino dealers are not franchised operations. LINE-X dealers are franchised. Just a quick comment. The rubbery finish was its most apealling feature as I could haul things without damage, and without sliding around.
I also hauled gravel, large boulders probably more weight than I should have , and many, many, many loads of dirt, that was removed with shovels. The liner is still perfect. I thought about using a little Armorall to spruce it before getting rid of it.
I am sure no one could tell it is 8 years old. BTW, the new one would be done through the same dealer, by the same installer. I also like the Rhino badge adheared to the middle of the front wall of the bed better the the cheap looking Line-X sticker I have seen stuck to back windows. If your last Rhino was back in , then the product was called Tuff Stuff. Note: Both Tuff Stuff and Tuff Grip are aromatic polyurethane and will fade to light gray with sun exposure.
Hi all! I am trying to find out if you guys have the bolts in you truck bed sprayed if you have a line-x liner. They are silver colored and the bed is now shiney black.
Think it looks unfinished. Called the dealer and he said after much hassle he would spray the bolts, but void my entire warrranty on the rest of my liner if I choose to do so.
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